Thoughts on the Election?

stroker

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If you can not name both of your state senators and their party, your representative and the vice presidential nominee then yes, you are just too uninformed to be able to vote. If one can not meet that requirement I would have no problem with suspending the right/privilege to vote.
I agree that too many will jump on a bandwagon and have no idea what they're actually voting for and maybe there should be some sort of test but I'm not sure how effective it would be. Especially if what you needed to know in order to vote was known ahead of time.

The only thing someone would have to do is...... OK I like these people. I want to vote for them. Gotta find out who my US Senators are, who the VP is, etc, etc.

And, like anything to do with government, it would end up being costly, time consuming and there'd be too many ways around it for the testing to be practical and I doubt it would change anyones mind or leave them any more informed on who they intended to vote for in the first place.

The only way for people to vote for what they think is best is to spend time researching and learning about the issues, politicians and gather information from places other than just the mainstream 'news' opinions and left leaning movie stars that most people are bombarded with constantly. At least there would be a sense that a rational,well rounded decision on who and what they're voting for was made.

I think it's be best to work with what we have now and that's leaving it to the individual to convince a freind or family member and the campaigns or parties that each of us support to properly get their messages out to the voters.
 

ghautz

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... spend time researching and learning about the issues, politicians and gather information from places other than just the mainstream 'news' opinions and left leaning movie stars that most people are bombarded with constantly...

I wish this idea were emphasized along with the campaigns to encourage people to vote.
 

justnewell

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Stroker, I understand there would be many ways around any knowledge test. I was just throwing my 2 cents in. I think my biggest frustration with this past election was the incredible level of ignorance that many voters exhibted. I very much want people to vote but at least I want them to be able to cast an informed ballot. For my money there was not much of a choice, if the top of both tickets were the best the parties could offer then this country is already in the handbasket. OBama was not my first choice but he will be my president and I will pray for his good health if for no other reason Biden is just not smart enough to hold the office.
 

stroker

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Stroker, I understand there would be many ways around any knowledge test. I was just throwing my 2 cents in. I think my biggest frustration with this past election was the incredible level of ignorance that many voters exhibted. I very much want people to vote but at least I want them to be able to cast an informed ballot. For my money there was not much of a choice, if the top of both tickets were the best the parties could offer then this country is already in the handbasket. OBama was not my first choice but he will be my president and I will pray for his good health if for no other reason Biden is just not smart enough to hold the office.
Actually, I couldn't agree more with you. Hearing some of the reasons why people liked Obama, or even worse, why they disliked Palin made me think that we really need some sort of voter testing :cool:, but the system in place will work over time. It just takes some effort and direction. That's something the Republicans are lacking right now.



Absolutly, McCain was no prize either. They lost this one, the Dem's didn't win it. Maybe it's for the best. Let someone else take the heat for awhile but they really need to wake up and stop pandering to the far left because we just can't afford it much longer.

The cult like following we witnessed with Obama being able to convince people with style and simple yet vague promises of hope and change reminds us of how sheeplike we can be and it makes us wonder.

When one party gets extremely lop sided negative press and relentless 'comic' jabs probably in the range of 8-1, it's suprising the election was as close as it was. It seemed like a small victory , even after all the repeated attacks on Palin, hearing some of the pundits trying to figure out why Obama wasn't destroying McCain in the pre-election polls. When they started claiming people are voting McCain because their racist pushed me even further towards McCain. Maybe there's more out there who have just plain common sense than we seem to realize.

On the bright side it'll be a releif not having to deal with the amount of disrespect to the White House and the office of the President through the media for at least a few years. As you mentioned, Obama is our president, we'll repect that, even if the real reason is the fear of Biden running things :respect:
 

urednecku

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When one party gets extremely lop sided negative press and .....

I strongly believe the media runs this country. This "election" is just the latest example.
Another for instance, the Rodney King riots several years ago were caused by the media. They kept showing the black man being beaten by Police officers, but would NOT show the whole scene, :wtf: or tell the truth behind it, him being so high on drugs he did not feel the batons hitting him in places that were meant to STOP him, not INJURE him. They refused to show the parts where he kept getting up while being told to STAY DOWN. I still believe the media should have been prosecuted for inciting that riot.

Sorry, I'll get off my soap box now.:soapbox:
 

justnewell

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After the first of next year I plan to write Palin and tell her that she did indeed have too much baggage. I just do not believe anyone could have drug McCain accross the finish line.
 

stroker

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After the first of next year I plan to write Palin and tell her that she did indeed have too much baggage. I just do not believe anyone could have drug McCain accross the finish line.



She's tough, she managed to shake things up alot and handled herself fairly well considering all the rumors and relentless attacks she and her family was under overnight. What you saw is what you got. Some people like that. If she wasn't seen as a threat to Obama and the Dems the attacks would not have been so intense. Sure it was a lost cause. She was unprepared and made her fair share of blunders, so has Biden. Give her a few more years to polish up a bit and she'll be back. No ones going to be perfect but anyone who can get an 80% or so approval in their own state deserves a little more respect than she recieved.
 

Doc

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After the first of next year I plan to write Palin and tell her that she did indeed have too much baggage. I just do not believe anyone could have drug McCain accross the finish line.
The way the media talked I thought I was the only one left who like Sara Palin. The media abused her endlessly and let Biden get by with all types of bloopers without the MSM even taking notice.
I agree with others who think that she'll be back on the national scene at some point.
 

urednecku

Member
The way the media talked I thought I was the only one left who like Sara Palin. The media abused her endlessly and let Biden get by with all types of bloopers without the MSM even taking notice.
I agree with others who think that she'll be back on the national scene at some point.

NOPE, yer not the only one liking her. Remember what I said about the media? :furious:They be a bunch of MO&^&%%* LIARS!!!!!!:furious::furious:

:soapbox:

I sure HOPE she'll be back!!
 

justnewell

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After the first of next year I plan to write Palin and tell her that she did indeed have too much baggage. I just do not believe anyone could have drug McCain accross the finish line.
After reading this post, and I understand you guys knew what I meant but just to clarify for anyone that might misread it: I am saying McCain was the baggage.
 

rj's barn

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I hate to say it guys... in my studies of the Constitution there is not protected right to vote in federal elections. We do, however, have the guaranteed right to vote in local and state elections. The "Right To Vote" clause is not a carte blanche pass to vote in every election regardless of venue. At least that is the way I read it.

As far as the results of the election: America picked a hard line socialist. In the face of an economic downturn, federal bailouts and partial federal ownership of private industry; this is close to being the perfect storm that blows in full scale socialism or something far worse. Hold on to your hats.
 

justnewell

New member
Ok rj, help me out here. It has been so long I do not know from where I have the idea that the state senators were the ones that elected the president. I do not know if it is in the Madison Papers or just where this came from but for some reason it just keeps rattling around in my head. Sort of like democracy and republic, so many people do not have a clue.
 

joe lasky

Member
Kind of funny. I thought for sure since Bob and everyone else over at forums used Palin's image of some sort or included her name in some way, for sure she'd be elected:D

For the record, I did not vote for Obama.
 
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