Dealers in Northern NY

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Hi all -
As some of you may remember from my introductory post (New Member), I live in St. Lawrence County, NY. I have been to one Kubota dealer so far - Snell in Potsdam. Mark Dow there has always been helpful and straightforward with my questions, so I just assumed that I would be making my RTV 900 purchase there. Deerlope has recommended them. Snell is a 50 minute drive for me and so is the closest. But also in New Member, ddttweeks recommended Dragoon's in Mooers. That is a 2 1/2 hour drive for me. And in looking on the Kubota website, I found Waldroff in Watertown, a 1 1/4 hour drive. No one has mentioned them.

Some things that have been going through my mind:
1. Is it worthwhile to "comparison shop" for price?

2. I plan on keeping my RTV for 20 years, so I am sure the initial price will fade quickly, but the quality of service will soon rise to become the most important consideration. Do most dealers give better treatment on service if they sold the machine initially?

3. I plan on starting with a Worksite model and adding a full hard cab w/glass windshield, w/s wiper, cab heater, power angle plow, and HD struts before ever taking delivery. So availability of accessories would be important. Is one dealer better than another in that regard?

4. What kind of discount should I expect for a "cash sale"?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Doug

BCZOOM - I read your toboggan tale with some empathy. I sure hope your back recovers in good shape.
 
When I bought mine in December I made one mistake that I later found out about on this site. Be sure to negotiate your assesories at dealers cost. The only one I got at dealer cost was my snorkel since I added that after I bought the machine but before I took delivery.
 
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If you want to go thru Waldroff you can work thru their Canton tractor store. The New Holland dealer on US11 just out side of CantonWhat I mean is you can pick stuff up there. I know for a fact the Snell's price will 1K under anybody else. BTW Mark Dow is no longer with them. He got into a disagreement with management and quit. He now works for UPS. When I have had aproblem Snell's handled it very well and sometimes over the phone.When you buy get the dealer to do the first 50 hour service for free.</P>
 
Thanks Deerlope. That's the kind of input I was hoping to get.

Here's another question I will throw out for all: Since I'm looking to get mine in late summer, is there a "best time" to nail down a deal, such as right after the new models come out to pick up "last year's" (2007) model at a close-out price? When is that, and would it make a difference?

Doug
 
According to what Matt Snell told me they don't have new models per say. If you buy one today it will be called an 08 model. If you bought one a year ago it will be an 07 but it will still identicalto the 08. Every three years Kubota will take a certain series and rework it. Who knows maybe next year they will rework the RTV and in anotherthree it will be the "M" tractors. I know that the new "L" series compact tractor with the hydro tranny, that all one has to know is how the start it and push on the hydro pedal.Electronics does the rest. Go talk with someone at Snells and see what you can nail down. I was there today and the were doing inventory(the second time someone said) and they had many RTV's there.
 
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1. Is it worthwhile to "comparison shop" for price?<FONT color=#ff0000> Yes, do shop around, in my case, I saved big $$$$$$ on our unit, and found a SUPERIOR dealer in the search. In my opinion, SERVICE is everything !!!! If a dealer don't want to work out a deal that you feel comfortable with, find another, there is many to choose from. There is two dealers closer to the dealer we purchased ours from, but one wouldn't budge on the price, ( acted like he could care less if you purchased a unit or not ),could not give me striaght answers, wouldn't return my calls, the other dealer, his replys to my questions, on service, didn't make me feel like they cared that much about the customers. My dealer is over a hours drive, one way ~~~ and is worth every mile .... He has told me so, so much about the RTV's , and to top it off, we have more than just a dealer / customer relationship, he is a friend that cares about you & your equipment ..... He still calls me at least once every two - three weeks checkin' in on everything.He's even offered to bring me a RTV to use, while he picks mine up and services it, ANY TIME, at no cost, only would have to pay for the service work. That's what I call GOOD BUSINESS .... He even done the first 50 hr. service at NO COST >>>>> That there is a big PLUS !!!! So yes, take your time and shop, there is some great dealers out there that will go overboard not only to make a sale, but to help you in any way to make you feel appreciated !!!!</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#808080>

</FONT><FONT color=#808080>2. I plan on keeping my RTV for 20 years, so I am sure the initial price will fade quickly, but the quality of service will soon rise to become the most important consideration. Do most dealers give better treatment on service if they sold the machine initially? <FONT color=#ff0000>Find you dealer that</FONT> <FONT color=#ff0000>really cares about service, ask questions, listen to his replies, you can tell if he is a TRUE service dealer or not ..... You ask about dealer treatment, that's hard to answer, but I can tell you that the other dealers in my area is trying to get my " service business " for some reason. They make big bucks on service ..... So , really , I think no matter where you purchase the unit, you can find a good service dealer that will be more than happy to have your business !!!!</FONT>

3. I plan on starting with a Worksite model and adding a full hard cab w/glass windshield, w/s wiper, cab heater, power angle plow, and HD struts before ever taking delivery. So availability of accessories would be important. Is one dealer better than another in that regard?</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#808080><FONT color=#ff0000>If you are</FONT> <FONT color=#ff0000>planning on getting all that equipment and accessories on your new machine, you will come out cheaper in the long run just by purchasing a RTV 1100. A freind and myself just last week done a breakdown on just about everything you listed on your wish list, and he went ahead and purchased the 1100 series unit. For you get so much more bang for your bucks, and save much money all together !!!!</FONT>

4. What kind of discount should I expect for a "cash sale"?</FONT><FONT color=#808080><FONT color=#0000ff>Doesn't really matter, the dealer is going toget his money anyway...... Cash, get his money now, Kubota Credit, he gets his </FONT></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff>money now, Local Banking, he gets his money now !!! So the way I look at it, that " CASH SALE THING " will not get you that much leverage >>>>>>
</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff> ***** On another note, let me make this statement, the longer you wait, the more it's going to cost you, for these machines, just like everything else, is going up in price, all the time >>>So if you have the money now, take that step, you don't want to do like my friend did, and started to get a unit in December, then purchased one the other day, and cost him close to $400.00 more, he said he wish he would of picked up one sooner, for the money he had to pay for reason of the 3% increase, he could of purchased himself a damn winch !!!!</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#0000ff>Kubota Corp.ALWAYS has great interest rates, customer bonus', etc .... Take a look at their website on and see what they offer on the RTV's..... You can always finace one, and jump up in a few months and pay it off if one wishes >>>> Kubota is also throwing in Promotional Rates for thier equipment sales, which is a big plus for the customers ...</FONT></P>


http://www.kubota.com/f/home/home.cfm</P>


http://www.kubota.com/f/Finance/promorates.cfm</P>


http://www.ktacinsuranceagency.com/</P>


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This is just my opinion, >>> Hope some of this helps >>>>>>>></P>
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<font color="#808080"><font color="#000000">Two Guns wrote</font>
3. I plan on starting with a Worksite
model and adding a full hard cab w/glass windshield, w/s wiper, cab
heater, power angle plow, and HD struts before ever taking delivery. So
availability of accessories would be important. Is one dealer better
than another in that regard?</font>


<font color="#808080"><font color="#ff0000">If you are</font> <font color="#ff0000">planning
on getting all that equipment and accessories on your new machine, you
will come out cheaper in the long run just by purchasing a RTV 1100. A
freind and myself just last week done a breakdown on just about
everything you listed on your wish list, and he went ahead and
purchased the 1100 series unit. For you get so much more bang for your
bucks, and save much money all together !!!!</font></font></p>

Two Guns brought up an important point. So I went to the Kubota site and ran their configurator on a 900 worksite, adding a standard steel cab v4211, HD struts v4209, cab heater v4214a, driver's w/s wiper v4267, bed liner v4229, snow blade v4208, and hydraulic angle kit v4207. Came to $17501.</p>

Then I ran the configurator on an 1100 worksite, adding bed liner v4229, rear window net/guard v4258, snow blade v4208 (it automatically added mount bracket v4285), and hydraulic angle kit v4207 (it automatically added extension hose kit v4297). Came to $20,112.</p>

Difference is $2611. I realize I am giving up A/C and defogger, speedometer, rear view mirror, and wired stereo speakers. Am I missing anything else? These I've listed are not important to me.</p>

Price for the snow blade and angle kit together is $2014. Would I be better off getting a Blizzard plow (w/power angle)? I believe I could get either installed before taking delivery.</p>

Thanks to all. This is a GREAT forum!</p>

Doug
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My friends didn't come up with that total The total we came up with from the dealer himself, was so much less in $$$$$$ .......I believe you will have to go to a dealer and get the "TRUE " cost of this.... Most items, like everything else, has a suggested retail price. Which in not the true price that one will pay.... After doing weeks of research, paper work, compareing, it was not enough difference in the price of the 900 with add ons, & the 1100 decked out.... Plus, he got the air/ heat, etc, etc ~~~~ A customer comes out so far ahead, and more in a machine, if getting all these add-ons, by just purcasing the 1100 series RTV Kubota ~~~</P>


And that cab on the 1100 units, are SUPERIOR CABS !!! Strong, steady, air tight..... and they have a bigger engine to top it all off !!!! </P>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> <FONT face=JohnHancock color=#ff0000 size=5>Two Guns ~~~~~</FONT></FONT></DIV>
 
<blockquote>Two Guns wrote:
I believe you will have to go to a dealer and get the "TRUE " cost of this
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You are of course correct. I'll have to take these quote sheets to my dealer and get his bottom line. All this writing and research is making me hungry to see a big orange K in the garage [:)]

Doug
 
Doug,</P>


I priced a 680LT Blizzard plow for my RTV-1100 from a dealer here in Pa. and he wanted 3300.00 for the plow......It has power angle and power up and down and has a control stick or an 4 way box to operate the plow from inside the cab.......The hydraulic control is built into the plow. So the plow is a complete unit and all you do is pull into it and hook up.....</P>


Rusty Anvil,,,</P>
 
RUSTY ANVIL wrote
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I priced a 680LT Blizzard plow for my RTV-1100 from a dealer here in
Pa. and he wanted 3300.00 for the plow......It has power angle and
power up and down and has a control stick or an 4 way box to operate
the plow from inside the cab.......The hydraulic control is built into
the plow. So the plow is a complete unit and all you do is pull into
it and hook up.....</p>
</blockquote>That's what I'm talking about! Little joystick attached to or close to the shift lever, all hydraulic. Seems like that would be worth an extra $1300 over the Kubota/Curtis. I'll be checking this out in person at my dealer soon.

Doug
 
The RTV's that I seen at Snell's that were going to Alcoa in Massena had the Blizzard plows on them. They had a little box with a "T" handle coming out of themstrapped to the seat right next to the driver.
 
river,</P>


you should be able to get rtv 1100 worksite for 15k or a little less. the cab on the 1100 in my opinion is much nicer than the curtis add on for the 900</P>
 
River I was gone snowmobile drag racing in Quebec first time on since last thursday. Call Gary at Dragoons (518) 236-7110 he has 2 1100's and 4 900's in the yard. I've owned both the 900 and 1100 and if you really want a cab get the 1100. Gary will work a deal on any acessories you want and i'm sure he would deliver it also. Their service has always been outstanding.
 
Doug, when I read your thread, I thought the same as TG's. Go to the dealer and piece mill it out with him. That's exactly what I did. The price should be pretty darn close or better on the 1100 side. Besides, then you'd have all the factory installs, and better resale in that 21st year of ownership.</P>


Even the things you mention that you might not care to have now, you will be so much more comortable with the factory sealed doors with heat, take your doors off in the Summer. At your current age, creeping up to those 20 years will you wish you had the extras?</P>


Just some 2 pennies and been there, done that kinda stuff</P>


Brian</P>
 
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