Thoughts on the Election?

Doc

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So, now we have President Obama.
While he was not who I voted for, I'll accept it and wish him well for the sake of our country.
It should be an interesting 4 years.
 
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johnday

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So, now we have President Obama.
While he was not who I voted for, I'll accept it and wish him well for the sake of our country.

Here here Doc. Agreement three 100%

It should be an interesting 4 years.

And there as well. I've been watching CNN this morning. Anyone else? One thing I noticed is how this has become a "Black" victory, a real statement I've heard many times this morning. Jeez, I hoped that racial background wouldn't have continued past the election. Guess I should have known better! Appears to still be the "ME" syndrome eh?:notthatway::wtf::sad::sad:

Screwed that up, but I think you get my drift.
 
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urednecku

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I hope I'm wrong. I just got this gut feeling our "tiered" tax system just went from 15, 20, 25%, etc. to about 80% for ALL the WORKING people, so we can "share the wealth".
& I hate it that what guns I didn't loose on the boating accident, I had to sell in a yard sale to pay a medical bill.



edit: I just pray to GOD, (not allah) that I'm wrong about him.
 
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johnday

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I hope I'm wrong. I just got this gut feeling our "tiered" tax system just went from 15, 20, 25%, etc. to about 80% for ALL the WORKING people, so we can "share the wealth".
& I hate it that what guns I didn't loose on the boating accident, I had to sell in a yard sale to pay a medical bill.



edit: I just pray to GOD, (not allah) that I'm wrong about him.

Red, I truly hope you're wrong as well. But I guess time will tell. All this bs just makes me want to go to the hills and be left alone.

P.S. You and AW are on my mind a lot, credit to you two.:tiphat::tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:
 
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zionview

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I personally have no problem with the election of Mr. Obama, but the fallout of the Replublicans in the Northeast bothers me. I realized while watching the results come in last night, there is no Republican in power in the entire Northeast. So much for the checks and balances. On the other hand, if they screw it up, there's another election in 2 years.
 

PBinWA

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I personally have no problem with the election of Mr. Obama, but the fallout of the Replublicans in the Northeast bothers me. I realized while watching the results come in last night, there is no Republican in power in the entire Northeast. So much for the checks and balances. On the other hand, if they screw it up, there's another election in 2 years.


Well said! I prefer a government that can't pass any new legislation to a government that is able to pass lots of legislation any day of the week.

Give 'em two years and see how they do. I'm not expecting any "greatness" just more of the same with a left leaning tilt.
 

Archdean

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Well I do resent that this election was orchestrated and abetted by the liberal main stream media and as a direct result of our education system we had an election for the first time in our history prove once and for all that there are more stupid, uneducated people than those that care to acquaint themselves with facts versus flowery bull crap!

“The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us. Business doesn’t pay taxes, and who better than business to make this message known? Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business. Begin with the food and fiber raised in the farm, to the ore drilled in a mine, to the oil and gas from out of the ground, whatever it may be—through the processing, through the manufacturing, on out to the retailer’s license. If the tax cannot be included in the price of the product, no one along that line can stay in business.” —Ronald Reagan
 

Doc

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If I can quote an old rock'n roll song" Meet the new Boss, just like the old Boss"

Oh yeah. Good quote to pull out Big Wheels. And what a GREAT song. :thumb: :tiphat:

Good Reagan quote you found there Dean. Even Obama has to know he was blowing smoke, but it worked. Can the people not see through the retoric or was the vote more against Bush / McCain than for Obama. I do believe it was a little of both.
I fear the middle class will bear the burden as always. The poorest amongst us will make out and be given incentive to never try to work. ....I have to quit before I depress myself to much. .....
 

Archdean

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Obama Fundraising Sealed Election Win
WELL YES AND NO!!! We (collectively) allowed our selves to be bought proving that as a people we are just to damn stupid to be trusted with democracy!!
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/o...mo_code=708C-1

On election day when I watched and listened to the vast majority of voters the media put on camera I jumped up at one point when a particular voter was holding a ballot all the while babbling nonsense and I said out loud to the TV "GIMME THAT" your just too damn dumb to have the privilege!!
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Doc

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I'll admit it. I was burnt out on the election way before Nov. 4th. From Nov. 1st on I tried not to watch any news coverage, as the election is all the speculated about ....and I simply did not want to hear it, or believe what they were saying.
Did Obama buy the election? While it seems that way, I'm still not sure if Bush didn't deliver it up to him on a silver platter.
No matter, we move on. I'll wish Obama the best and hope my worst fears are never realized.
 

urednecku

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I'll admit it. I was burnt out on the election way before Nov. 4th. From Nov. 1st on I tried not to watch any news coverage, as the election is all the speculated about ....and I simply did not want to hear it, or believe what they were saying.
Did Obama buy the election? While it seems that way, I'm still not sure if Bush didn't deliver it up to him on a silver platter.
No matter, we move on. I'll wish Obama the best and hope my worst fears are never realized.


My thoughts, EXACTLY!!
 

SPYDERLK

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Well I do resent that this election was orchestrated and abetted by the liberal main stream media and as a direct result of our education system we had an election for the first time in our history prove once and for all that there are more stupid, uneducated people than those that care to acquaint themselves with facts versus flowery bull crap!
Some are bound to agree with you 300%.
larry
 

joe lasky

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GIMME THAT" your just too damn dumb to have the privilege!!

Is it a privilege or a right?

If voting is a privilege, what requirements do you suggest that a person must meet to be able to vote?
 

Archdean

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Is it a privilege or a right?

If voting is a privilege, what requirements do you suggest that a person must meet to be able to vote?

In the US it is still a right however if it is not exercised with due diligence and informed thought we will soon realize that it is a privilege that will not be afforded to the manipulated by the manipulating (read the MSM here), one only needs a basic understanding of world history to see what is on the horizon for this country!!!
 

joe lasky

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In the US it is still a right however if it is not exercised with due diligence and informed thought we will soon realize that it is a privilege that will not be afforded to the manipulated by the manipulating (read the MSM here), one only needs a basic understanding of world history to see what is on the horizon for this country!!!

I honestly can't say that I disagree with you, however, you have to "take the good with the bad".

Lets face it, our country hasn't had a bad "run", however, I'm certain there are things in our country's history that we all would not be proud of if we knew what the "exact" facts were. Fact is, we're a work in progress, and overall, still one of the best examples of people working for it's goverment (I don't know of any country where the goverment actually "works" for it's people).

Interesting as well, your comments could be said for our 2nd amendment as well.

Perhaps a better solution would be to make sure people meet certain requirements (licensing) to have children? I say that "tongue and cheek" to an extent, but perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea?

Could it be argued that due to our "constitutional rights", we will be our own demise?

By the way, you didn't answer my question, what requirements would you suggest that people must meet to be able to vote? Again, not saying that I disagree with you, but you've got to have a plan to change the current situation.
 
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Archdean

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"Could it be argued that due to our "constitutional rights", we will be our own demise?"

Absolutely, it is too large for even an informed citizen to navigate with clarity let alone what the last group just did considering that only 8% knew who Harry Reid or Ms.Pelosi are~~ consider that now is the perfect time with foreclosures/unemployment and etc to enact universal health care having the total effect of making the same voters totally beholding to the believers in socialism!

To directly answer your question I will just say this until those same voters live under the pain that they so unknowingly enthusiastically voted for there is no legitimate answer!
 

stroker

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"Could it be argued that due to our "constitutional rights", we will be our own demise?"

Absolutely, it is too large for even an informed citizen to navigate with clarity let alone what the last group just did considering that only 8% knew who Harry Reid or Ms.Pelosi are~~ consider that now is the perfect time with foreclosures/unemployment and etc to enact universal health care having the total effect of making the same voters totally beholding to the believers in socialism!

To directly answer your question I will just say this until those same voters live under the pain that they so unknowingly enthusiastically voted for there is no legitimate answer!
We are skirting with socialism but there's not that much difference between the two major parties right now. If McCain is the best the republicans could come up with we deserve what we're being dealt right now.

The Republicans have to stop catering to the media pressure and the left and start standing tough instead of continually moving the center to a point where it's actually leftist. The vote on prop 8 in Ca. proves people still want some conservative structure when given a chance to vote on it.

In two years when it's realized their pockets are empty and Obama is really no different than any other Dem the Republicans will have a chance to gain some seats. IF they manage to get some new young blood with tough standards into power maybe a balance will return.

With healthcare, anything completly run on a national level will be a disaster. If Obama tries it,it will become a very costly thorn in his side.



Mass. is trying a sort of healthcare reform and though it's more expensive than planned..(what else is new).. it is somewhat successful. Most who already had their own private insurance stayed on it and many who had trouble paying high premiums on their own ( self employed )now have benifit of rates comparable to an employee in a huge corperation. From whats been reported the trouble still lies with illegals and deadbeats who still want to abuse the free care system and 20-30 somethings that don't feel they need insurance at all. As the fines to the state for not having insurance cost more than buying it from a private provider they should start taking on the personal responsiblity.

Something needs to be done with healthcare because we can't continue paying for people simply refuse to take resonsiblity for themselves but it should only be done only a state by state basis and only if that state chooses to.
 

justnewell

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Is it a privilege or a right?

If voting is a privilege, what requirements do you suggest that a person must meet to be able to vote?
If you can not name both of your state senators and their party, your representative and the vice presidential nominee then yes, you are just too uninformed to be able to vote. If one can not meet that requirement I would have no problem with suspending the right/privilege to vote.
 
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