Crab grass advice

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<P mce_keep="true">Hey Guys..........I know this has very little to do with an RTV but I appreciate the good advice and common sense here.......sooooo........</P>
<P mce_keep="true">Been away from the farm for a couple of weeks over in NC shooting a documentary for the Army about the Golden Knights............In the mean time our hired hand did a good job of taking care of the critters and such............</P>
<P mce_keep="true">The problem: my garden plot, which has been tilled a bunch with fantastic goat compost put into it...........ohh golly does that stuff make it grow, anyway while I have been gone the crab grass has sprouted totally covering it. It is maybe 30' by 100'............We are getting rains the next few days and in the past have had little luck with tilling the stuff because it just buries it and it comes right back....................Yes, I should have put on a pre emergence..........</P>
<P mce_keep="true">Question: What is a good herbicide that will knock this stuff down in a day or two............work maybe even if rained on............WILL NOT KILL THE SOIL..........and will allow other seed types to germinate............?????????????</P>
<P mce_keep="true">Thanks ....................Dennis</P>
 
<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Dennis,</FONT></P>


<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3> This is my suggestion. Spray with regular Roundup. 1 1/2 to 2 oz per gallon. Don't overspray the grass. Don't mix it to strong, for it will do you more damage than good !!!! IT DON'T TAKE MUCH AT ALL, JUST A MIST >>>>>>>For if you kill it to fast, you will kill only the top of the plant, and it will not get all the way to the roots and will not completely kill the whole plant itself. That where many people make their mistakes. Herbicide needs to kill the plant slowly, all the way to the root, that's where the big PLUS shows up ......</FONT></P>


<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Now that you already have you ground cut up really good. DON'T , till it up again. Go ahead and plant in a couple of days after you see the grass turning yellow and dying. But don't till again. For you will activate and bring MORE seeds up to the top and they will germinate and your problem will start all over again.</FONT></P>


<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3> After planting, DEPENDING on what your crop is going to be. You can go behind it with DUAL, you can get it at your local co-op. ASK THEMIF YOU CAN USE THISFOR WHAT YOU ARE PLANTING !!!! Using this might depend on your crop >>>>>>>> But that is the best follow up . But before you go appling DUEL, check deeply into it !!!</FONT></P>


http://www.dowagro.com/ca/prod/broadstrike.htm</P>
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<FONT color=#ff0000><FONT face=JohnHancock><FONT size=4></FONT><FONT size=5>~~~~ Two Guns ~~~~</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
 
<P mce_keep="true">Once again good ol Jamie comes through...........since the original post maybe 3 hours ago have been researching..................Several universities etc go right along with your recommendation Jamie............Roundup Pro is the specific product and the advice from all follows EXACTLY what you say about the tilling etc...................Thanks Bud..............My wife is in town right now as I right this............found some at TSC..................Dennis</P>
 
<P mce_keep="true">In another thread a while back folks were talking about putting some dishwashing soap in the sprayer to help the herbicide be absorbed by the plant better............Would that be the case here and if so how much in a 2 gallon hand sprayer..............dennis</P>
 
Dennis,</P>


Doing this, you want to use a true Surfactant additive.... You want great results, do it right. Get the Surfactant and mix it up with your herbicides as directed.Many companies makes this additive !!! TSC will have this also !!!!</P>


To show yourself how good this stuff works, go ahead and purchase the surfactant additive, and use it. And do a small " test plot " with dishwashing liquid., you will see what I'm talking about. It's all the difference in the world.You've done all this work and spent good money and time with your garden , what is 11-12 more dollars for a quality system !!!!</P>


<FONT size=2><FONT face=JohnHancock color=#ff0000>~~~~~~~~ </FONT></FONT><FONT face=JohnHancock color=#ff0000 size=4>Two Guns ~~~~~~</FONT></P>
 
[quote user="TWO GUNS"]<font face="Times New Roman" size="3">Go ahead and plant in a couple of days after you see the grass turning yellow and dying.</font>[/quote]</p>

I didn't think you could plant that quickly. What does it say in the RoundUp directions for how long to wait before re-planting?</p>
 
<P mce_keep="true">You can count on Two Guns for great advice. Remember too if you are a first time user that it does very little good to spray the soil with Round up. Just spray the green grass/weeds. I like to dothis before I mow or weed eat so that there is more surface area for the herbicide Then I mow it like a week later. .Spraying after weed eating/mowing wasn't nearly as effectiveBuy the sufactant by the gallonat the counterfrom the co op ...it is dirt cheap that way. The little city slicker bottlesoffthe front shelfcosts more than the gallons from the back storeroom. Plant extra ...it may be a tough year. Bordercollie[&]</P>
 
<P mce_keep="true">BC...........the label reads 3 to 4 days.............will follow up with planting seeds long about next thurs and get my tomatoes in the next day............Dennis</P>
 
<P mce_keep="true">Hi BCZoom, In my experience with Round up, I preferto let the grass start dying before plantingjust so I can see what is going on. Once the round up has dried; in my experience ,you are good to go. In fact , one year I got busy and let the grass take over in my garden so I got a funnel and rigged it over my spray tip on the hand held and just sprayed the weeds up close to the plants.The funnel allowed me to get up close to the tomatoes etc but avoid contact. It worked really well because the airwas still. Round up doesn't carry over in the soil like Grazon and other products. But don't spray Mrs. Zoom's stuff and get us all in the doghouse.NO wind is good around favorite items when spraying . Even innocent folks have been blamed for plantdeath from natural causes[:S] Bordercollie</P>
 
I use a lot of RoundUp and other weed killers. Where I use the RoundUp, it's where I don't want things to grow so it's used to kill everything in places I don't want it. Since I don't plant afterwards, I haven't read the directions in years.</p>

I guess I'm thinking of some other product. Maybe some weed-and-feed or something that says not to spray on new grass or don't plant grass for a few weeks afterwards.
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With all the things we all use now days, it's easy to get 'em mixed up. It's awonder I haven't overdosed my dogs on some of their monthly preventive medications. It's a miracle they haven't started growing hair on their tongues .......</P>


Try to make it a practice to log and use the log / notes as a reference for future mixing on just about everything now days. Yes, I have made mistakes before !!!!</P>


<FONT size=4><FONT color=#ff0000> <FONT face=JohnHancock>~~~~~~ Two Guns ~~~~~~</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>


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