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Giles

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I have received confusing information pretaining to PTO operation of different Kubota tractors. I think the PTO operation is different between the standard transmission and the hydrostat model and that is what is confusing. I have talked to two different dealers and they didn't seem to know what I was talking about.
I am interested in a tractor like the B2320 or B2620 or an L3400.
I do not want a tractor without what I call 'Live PTO"
I have owned several older MF and Ford tractors where the PTO power would stop when the clutch was released. ( NO two stage clutch)
What does "transmission operated with overrun clutch" mean? To me, this means that it is not live and the overrun clutch serves as a safty devise to stop momentum of operating equipment from pushing the tractor---Like the "clicker" that we installed on older tractors without Live PTO.
Could someone explain how the PTO operation is controlled with these smaller tractors?
 
Giles said:
I do not want a tractor without what I call 'Live PTO"
I have owned several older MF and Ford tractors where the PTO power would stop when the clutch was released. ( NO two stage clutch)
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Well you may call it a "live PTO" but what does everybody else call it. :yum::yum: Just joking but I am a little confused.

With all the older gear tractors I have driven, with the engine running you depress the clutch, put it in gear, engage the PTO, let out the clutch slowly to about halfway and the PTO starts to turn, let the clutch out all the way and the tractor moves. Slow the tractor, push in the clutch, put on the brake, put the gearbox in neutral, release the clutch, get off the tractor, leave it running and the PTO turning while taking a leak, etc.

With my B2400 hydro (10 years old) you can stop forward momentum, leave in drive or put it in neutral and the PTO still turns as long as it is engaged. You can get off it and the PTO still turns and keeps on turning until the PTO lever is disengaged. Now, with the L4740 hydro (2 years old) you can't take your butt out of the seat with the engine running and the PTO engaged without everything shutting down. I think that is a new fangled safety cut-out to stop people from sticking their head under the mower to see what's happening with the engine running and the PTO engaged. I can understand the logic behind it but it can be a pest at times. The gear driven M5700 (about 6 years old) you can get off the tractor with the PTO running and again it keeps on trucking. No shutdown.

Now what was the question?
 
Giles said:
I have received confusing information pretaining to PTO operation of different Kubota tractors. I think the PTO operation is different between the standard transmission and the hydrostat model and that is what is confusing. I have talked to two different dealers and they didn't seem to know what I was talking about.
I am interested in a tractor like the B2320 or B2620 or an L3400.
I do not want a tractor without what I call 'Live PTO"
I have owned several older MF and Ford tractors where the PTO power would stop when the clutch was released. ( NO two stage clutch)
What does "transmission operated with overrun clutch" mean? To me, this means that it is not live and the overrun clutch serves as a safty devise to stop momentum of operating equipment from pushing the tractor---Like the "clicker" that we installed on older tractors without Live PTO.
Could someone explain how the PTO operation is controlled with these smaller tractors?
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I don't have much time here right at the moment.
But what I can tell you is that all of the models you mentioned (in the hydro config) do not require clutching for the transmission. Therefore your tractor acts just like it has a live PTO. In other words you can start and stop your tractor without the use of the clutch, so therefore the only time you need to use the clutch is when you are engaging your PTO.
I can go into more detail if you like when I have more time.
I'm at work on company time :shitHitsFan:
 
all u need is a jumper wire used between the seat safety switch....which is simply a bypass....I use mine like that all the time.....

Thats stuff is ralph natter crap.

Art
 
Sorry when I said start and stop, I meant the movement of the tractor (transmission). Not the engine.

DON'T USE A JUMPER WIRE!

Not that this pertains to this post anyway.

There is a reason that safety switches are mandatory on all new tractors sold (operator presence switch, safety neutral switch's, etc.). If you need to use a jumper wire, it means that quite likely one of your safety systems is not functioning properly.

FIX IT!:pat:
 
Yep Lethal , a young man up in N Miss got bounced off the seat of his open air tractor and got run over by the disc. Thank God a rare passerby noticed the tractor going in circles and was able to stop it before it got him again. He did lose his legs though not his life. All of our big tractors will still go forward even if you get off the seat - the newer ones will squawk a warning- but it is something to think about . The Ptos on them still turn when off the seat but then the feed wagon has to mix while I load it. Anyway thanks for the link. Bordercollie
 
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