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Good eyes! And my call is KE8QOC. - 73
There's a few of us radio geeks in here.Good eyes! And my call is KE8QOC. - 73
Dave again and mine is KJ4BLG.There's a few of us radio geeks in here.
Dave -KB1PVH
Damn. I thought I had adding things to my machine but that's whole new level.Here is a walkaround video of the machine running if you are interested.
Great detailed writeup. Thanks for taking the time to document your upgrades as well as the results.Thanks for all the replies everyone. Thought I'd give a little update on my X1140 build. I ended up installing the Demon 2" bracket lift. For wheels I went with 14" MSA M31 Lok 2 Beadlocks. For tires I went with 30"x10"-14" STI Out & Back Max tires. I have attached a pic of before I got the wheels/tires mounted on the machine as that was the only pic I had in my phone. I will get some more pics this evening and post them up tomorrow. It all went pretty smooth but had some rub which I will detail in a bit.
I measured height to the bottom of the front bumper and bottom of the rear hitch as baselines with shocks at max preload and at minimum preload. I did the same with the Demon 2" lift and factory wheels/tires as well as with the 2" lift with the 30" tires. I originally drove it with the 2" lift and 30" tires with shocks at minimum preload. This was so I was able to clear my garage door header! I measured and measured again and knew I was going to be damn close to not being able to make it out of the garage at full suspension preload so I tried it at minimum. I had little bit of rub in the rear but it was only on the lower outer bolt head that bolt the fender to the frame and some rub on the lower part of the fender flare. No rub in the front. I then wanted to see how close I was to fitting out the garage door with suspension at max preload. I was able to get out but it rubbed the header trim. I drove it like this for a few days and had occasional rub in the rear on real off camber situations with 4 adults on board and a few hundred pound of gear in the bed.
I then set out to fix the rub. I cut the lower 6 inches of the fender flare off at an angle to the body and that solved that rub. Then I stared at it for a few days taking body and fender panels off as I was going to cut the frame and weld in a new frame and plate at an angle and shorten the inner fender and replace it with steel sheet. And as much as I know it's a wrong thing to do, I decided simplest solution was best for now and just took a grinder to the bolt head. Took about 1/4" off it and left just enough that it is still holding fine and I can get a pair of vice grips on it to remove it if ever needed. That solved all my rub! I have tested it in almost every load and terrain situation I could find and even with 5 adults and a few hundred pounds in the bed I was unable to get any rub anywhere. I will note that I adjusted out the bolts that limit the steering angle in anticipation of rub in the front but I will move them back a bit as I feel I went a bit too far and can go back in some.
As for loss of low end, it may be a bit slower of the line in a holeshot but only for the first 10 to 15 feet or so. After that, I notice no loss in power or low end torque. I do know my speedometer is way off now. It will only get to 17-18 MPH on the factroy speedometer but that turned out to be 24-26 MPH on GPS. Tires feel choppy and bumpy at crawling speeds on concrete but are smooth as can be offroad or on the road at speed. I have settled on suspension preload at max on the rear and 1/2 on the front. It took some time and patience and few cases of beer but I am really happy with the results. I have noticed no difference in low end torque as I have pulled the same loaded trailer, drug big logs around, climbed any steepness of incline I dared to try, and drove over huge logs and rocks and creeks. I'm satisifed for sure but if I did it all over I would go with 28" tires. At least 28" tires in the style I have. They are really "flat shouldered" if that is the correct description and have huge lugs that stick out from the sidewall. I feel a 30" tire in a more rounded ATV style tire like the factory tire would not rub anywhere.
I would also like to note that I installed 2 inch wheel spacers on the rear and 1 inch spacers on the front but after testing I remmoved all the spacers as they were not needed at all. I actually wish I could remove the factory spacers as I feel they are not really needed either. I left them on as I would need to replace the factory studs to do so as they are not fully threaded hence the lug nuts not being abe to tighten my specific wheels. Maybe a thicker walled wheel would work but I highly doubt it. For now, I have left the factory spacers in the front and the rear. I will post up more pics tomorrow and give the height measurements in different configurations as I wrote them all down on the wall in my garage. I do know that the rear is at least 4.5 inches higher now and the front is at least 4 inches higher. It is a noticable change for sure but has never felt unstable or tippy and believe me when I say I have tried this configuaration in every angle, scenario, and terrain I have on my land. I will say the tires are not soft yard friendly and drag alot of mud into the garage!