Plowing Food Plots for Deer/ New RTV Owner ~~~~

TWO GUNS

TWO GUNS

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Just purchased my RTV 900 a month ago. So far, we love the machine. Seems really strong.</P>


My question is, I have planned on plowing up my deer food plots for the summer months, and </P>


later on for the winter with this RTV. Is there anyone out there that has done any plowing with </P>


this machine. I have only 17 hours on it, and wonder if I should wait till I break it in longer, or </P>


wait for the first 50 hr. service change to start working this unit. I will be using the Tufline</P>


Groundhog disc/plow, for which I used on my Honda Rubicon last year. This disc/plow done a </P>


the best job anyone could ask for, being I done tried four other plows that would not take the </P>


ground.The plow, Being Very, Very, aggressive , is using the weight of the machine, pushing downward makes it plow at it's </P>


best. Will this be to much for the RTV until I break it in more. And will it be to much on the</P>


back reciever. I do not want to do ANY damage to my new hunting unit .I wanted to insert </P>


picture of the plow I am wanting to use, but don't know how.A picture of the plow/disc in on</P>


a websitewww.groundhogdiscplow.com At the highest setting, It will be digging about 3 1/2"</P>


to 4" deep into hard ground. And will be picking up the rear just so the back tires will barely </P>


touch. I think I might have to use thefour wheel drive to use this. Do you think the reciever </P>


is strong enough for this implement or do any type of damage to the RTV. </P>


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Thanks,</P>


TWO GUNS</P>
 
[quote user="TWO GUNS"]Will this be to much for the RTV until I break it in more. And will it be to much on the back reciever. I do not want to do ANY damage to my new hunting unit .


Thanks,</p>


TWO GUNS[/quote]</p>I wasn't familiar with the Tufline Groundhog plow so I just pulled it up on the internet. My thoughts are that the RTV isn't even going to notice it's there and you'll be fine. Once past the break-in period (what is that, about 40 hours?), I'd bet you could put 3 or 4 of those plows behind it with no issues. Being only 22" wide and made for an ATV, the RTV will handle it with ease.



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Thanks for the reply ! Do you think, at being only 17hrs on it, will it hurt to </P>


just use it slowly. For being I need to get a plowing now and planting. And </P>


I don't know if I will have enough hours on it before it's to late. I did hook it </P>


up onto the unit just to see the set-up. And it really stands the back of the unit</P>


up in the air alot . I tried two wheel drive High & Med, will not even budge it. But put it into</P>


four low, and it will move it. The RTV really mashes this disc into the ground.</P>


And really puts hold on the RTV, really, all the weight of the back of the unit</P>


is really onto the reciever, recon it will hold up, For that disc is really going deep</P>


and picking up the back of the Kubota RTV alot. Just trying to be really careful</P>


with this machine. The plow is going stright down into the ground, not being dragged like alot of </P>


disc, So all the force is down pressure, not pulling weight.</P>


thanks,</P>


two guns </P>
 
There is debate over if a break in period is even nessesary in a modern engine. The conservitive consensous is that you need not baby the machine, just vary the RPM's that the engine runs at. Thats natural with an RTV, but tough with some tractors. You'll be fine, I agree with bczoom that you could probably chain a few of these things together if you really wanted to. </P>


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Two Guns,

Can you post a pic of this setup? Is there any way to adjust how much down-force (up-force on the RTV)? If it's lifting the back of the RTV, I'd think an ATV would be sitting on it's 2 front tires.
 
Yes, there is a adjustment, but on the RTV, you have to "flip" thepart that goes into</P>


the reciever so it will not hit the protective plate behind the tranny.</P>


On the ATV, you can adjust it any way you want, but on the Kubota, it is up as far</P>


as it will go. Remember, this plow is really sitting under the reciever, not dragging it</P>


behind like other plows. It putting all the down pressure from the back of the RTV</P>


on the plow itself. How do you post pictures this site? Sometime this evening I will</P>


hook it up and post pics and show you exactly how it is set up. It is really alot of </P>


pull ... Just tell me how to post the pics please ~~~~~~</P>


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thanks, two guns </P>


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Interesting... I would like to see a pic. I'm thinking of a change/fix that may get rid of your issue but need to see the existing setup first.

To post a pic:

In the reply window, there's some tabs at the top. You start in the "Compose" tab.
Click on the "Options" tab. From there, right under "File Attachment", click on "Add/Update" and point to the pic on your PC. Then click "Post" on any of the tabs.
 
As soon as I get the pics, I will send them to you, I for some reason cannot see the </P>


"Compose" tab anywhere, Might want to give me you email address so I may </P>


send them directly to you. Probobly be later on today for I have to bring the better</P>


half to town to pic up her stuff.</P>


with all thanks,</P>


two guns</P>
 
I sent you an e-mail with my return e-mail address.

Too many spiders/bots grab e-mail addresses out of these forums to use for spam so I'd rather send it to you off-line.

Brian
 
OK, I have some pics.
The first shows the unit in general to see what we're looking at.
 
This one shows the unit after removed from the blocks holding up the rear tires.
 
OK, my thoughts now that I see what we're looking at.

I wouldn't use it until we get something figured out. The way it's using the receiver is putting a lot of force on it in the wrong direction. Notice that the top of the receiver has a plate that goes back to the tubular frame. That provides strength for downward force on the receiver. The way this thing mounts, all the pressure is on the welds on the lower part of where the receiver mounts to the frame. I don't like that, especially the way it appears to be torqueing it already.

The way the adjustment holes are on this thing, it appears it's all or nothing for digging. As currently set, it's trying to grab 3-4" of ground at a time. With hard soil, that's lifting the rear-end of the RTV and the receiver isn't going to like it.

What would it take to drill some holes to make it grab an inch or so at a time. You make passes at 1" of digging until ground is loose, then lower 1" and repeat. Keep lowering/making passes until it's done.

Another option I'm thinking of is to put a draw bar in your receiver and have that unit sit farther away from the RTV. This could/would a lot of the stress on the draw bar instead of the receiver. Heck, I'd consider going back a couple feet. The draw bar would provide flex which will reduce the stress on that lower weld of the receiver.

Out of time to post right now. I'll be back later, hopefully with more and/or better ideas.

Brian
 
I was just a outside looking at this, maybe I can drill one hole above the big bolt that you see</P>


above the plow blades, that might give me another inch of relief, setting the back wheels down some,</P>


taking some pressure off of the reciever. I just don't know right now, just wanting to get it right !!!!</P>


Being the way it came from the Groundhog factory, all the adjustment holes are so called used up.</P>


So if I take the pin out, push up just as far as it will go, like I said, might give relief ....</P>
 
The reciver on the RTV looks like its in a pretty solid place, but I can totally see how that could put alot of stress on the rear end. Its kinda interesting, its much smaller than it looks on the website. I agree thatyou would want some flexibility in the mounting, say the thinghits a big rock or somthing????</P>


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I going to do exactly what bczoom said, put on a two foot extension bar , I will be able to make all the adjustments I need. & so I may go down just one inch at a time other than going all the way, all at once,chancing ripping off the reciever. I will head out to the machine shop first thing in the morning and get one fabricated up. Maybe this will cure the worry ~~~~</P>
 
I know that you have already purchased this product, but you have got to check out the Kolpin Dirt Works Accessory Line. I purchased the system for my RTV last year. It utilizes a three point hitch system for the back off of the receiver. What made it so nice was the fact that YOUCAN CONECT THE HYDRO UP AND DOWN TO YOUR DUMP OUTLETS. You can raise and lower your implement as needed, not mention add down pressure. </P>


The long story short.... I purchased this product to put in food plots...Days later came across a killer deal on a compact tractor. Although I loved it, and it worked well, I sent it back to Kolpin. (My wife was going to kill me) If you do not have access to a tractor it is worth the money.</P>


Note: Although any implement will attach to the3- point system, I highly recomend using the Kolpin stuff! Iput one of my smallblades on the back of it and felt like it was to much pressure on the RTV receiver. Also keep in mind that they make one for <U>UTV'S</U> and ATV'S.</P>


kolpinpowersports.com</P>


Good Luck,</P>


Knoxville</P>
 
I've see that before in pictures, but never realized that it goes in the reciever. Is that all that supports the whole 3pt kit?
 
You nailed it! Kolpin sold me a larger receiver for my RTV that the 3 PTattaches onto. It bolts directly to the four bolt back tranny cover. It replaces the cover as a taller hitch receiver (2"), and cover. I liked it so well that I kept it even though I sent the 3 point back. That is the only flaw with the system! <U>IF</U> you purchase the Kolpin accessories they are light enough not to cause any harm (especially on a RTV), but if you try to use regular implements they are to heavy in my opinion. </P>


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Let me say again that if you need a way to put in food plots, don't have access to a tractor, this baby was the ticket. Combined with our hydo capability (rtv exclusive), weight advantage, and transmission it is awsome. Note that on atv's they use an electric hydro driven up and down motor. Use the Kolpin accessories and you will not harm your machine. THE RTV IS LIKE A TANK COMPARED TO ATV'S. I think you will like the additional 2" receiver on the back of your machine as well. </P>


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I am fixin' to take a look into this. This might be might be what I have been looking for all along. Didn't know one was out there. Thanks, ~~~~~
 
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