those of you that have BX tires on ur RTV!HELP!!

KubotaMan3

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hi everyone this is my first post. and this looks like a great site and you all seem very help ful. i was reading around that you guys put BX tractor tires and rims on ur rtvhttp://www.compacttractorreview.com/popimage.aspx?img=404.jpg&h=500 like that one there i was wondering do these rims ft the bolt patern and also what size tire and rim are you using ? thanks
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GJ,

Welcome to the forum.
I don't have BX tires on my RTV nor do I know who's RTV is pictured in your link (but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night).

The tires pictured "appear" to be 26x12x12 which means they would be from BX1830 or larger.
The BX1500 has 24x12x12. Without a lift kit, these may be a better choice. The RTV in the picture may have rubbing issues.

The Turf model of the RTV has 25x12x12 which is the widest OEM tire option offered on the RTV.

Confirm with the dealer, but I believe the bolt pattern is the same on the RTV and BX series tractors.
 
They are the tires that goes on a Ditch Witch, a slowditch cutting machine used to cut ground to lay cable lines and such >>>> These tires are VERY hard, they have tractor style tread, and is only good for the ditch machine or some piece of equipment in that area . These tires are very, very, very heavy and I have seen them dry-rod before they ever start really wearing out. I'd never put them on any utility vehicle of mine. This picture is NOT MINE >>> This is a blown up picfrom the post that /cs/Themes/default/images/user_IsOffline.gifKubotaMan3 was asking about. The style tires are so thick, you can run them flat and the look no different aired-up. Who would put such a tire on a perfect RTV ? It be lke putting steel tires on the RTV >>>>>>
 
[quote user="TWO GUNS"] They are the tires that goes on a Ditch Witch, a slowditch cutting machine used to cut ground to lay cable lines and such [/quote]
They do look similar but the ones pictured are the rear tires off of a Kubota BX series tractor.

There's a set on e-bay right now for you to see pics. E-bay item # <span class="ebay">140138176842

If you don't want the bar (R-1) tires, they also have the R-4's for the BX in the same size.
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yeah i am preatty sure there off a BX i love the look of them and the orange rim. you ever see the tires on the bob cat tool cat ? how do you tink they would be ? i just want something a lilttle bit nobbeyeir than the camo rtv tires .
 
[quote user="KubotaMan3"]yeah i am preatty sure there off a BX i love the look of them and the orange rim. you ever see the tires on the bob cat tool cat ? how do you tink they would be ? i just want something a lilttle bit nobbeyeir than the camo rtv tires .[/quote]
I don't know exactly what tires they put on the toolcat. From the pics I've seen, it seems like each model of the toolcat has different tires.

There are lots of aftermarket tires (and kits with rims) that are made for the RTV and many/most have more aggressive tread. The one thing to watch is that the tires selected can handle the load.
Bordercollie just posted that the Mudlites gave up due to the fact they're only made for 420#/tire which isn't quite enough for the RTV's weight.
I've been running Maxxis Bighorns. Great traction and handling. Not as aggressive as the 589's but my lawn appreciates that...

Aftermarket tires (if you stick with 25x10x12) can be put right on your OEM rims if you want to take that approach.
 
I'm be somewhat cautious with the load handling capacity of the BX tires. Its a 4-ply where the other RTV tires are all 6-ply.
 
I run 26x12x12 BX tires on there stock Orange wheels. There are no problem running them. I'm in Maine and I wanted a tire that would go in the snow and clear easy in the spring mud. These do an outstanding job. I have other pictures in other threads.
 
Bet them tires makes that RTV walk threw that snow like a Centipede >>>>>></P>


Machine looking Great !!!! </P>


Bet ya got to put on them Beer Goggles when traveling in that cold weather >>>></P>
 
I can remember well, the 10th of this month, will be the one year anniversary of our RTV >>>> </P>


When I picked up this unit, my dealer BEGGED me to get a windshield, telling him " I don't need one" </P>


What in the hell I was thinking, I will never know > Told him that have rode many years on a Honda's all over the place. No windshield. Just put on more clothes. He said that the UTV's will be colder... I thought he was nuts ********** HE WAS RIGHT !!!. That wind jamming over the hood, funneling into the cab, the contour of the cab, and the wind cutting threw the ROPS bars, made the incoming air a VORTEX of cold, teeth rattling cold in there .... About three weeks later, when I could get the time to drive up to his dealership ( approx 125 miles round trip ) . I had that beautiful glass windshield installed .... Sure helped my feeling alot. And heck, it don't get as cold down here as it does up there >>>>>> </P>


I can easily remember well, my eyes watering so bad, that I had a stream of tears going around my face, pass my ears, wraping around my head. Nose running . Hands numb, teeth chattering, my body was so damn cold, thought I was going to crack like a busted egg if I bumped anything >>>>>> BUT I WAS PROUD, I HAD ME A RTV !!!!!</P>


This picture attached, just unloaded my RTV and riding around the field for the first time. This thing had ZERO accessories on it. We were one happy couple of folks this day !!!!</P>


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This is what my dealer said when I asked about BX take off's.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We do not have any take offs. We do not recommend that the bx tractor tires on the rtv. Kubota tells dealers not to do it so that is what we have to go by. We could get you the ATV tires for your rtv they work really well in all conditions they run $412.00 plus $90.00 shipping if you have any? Give me a call 253-845-8801 thanks. Loren </SPAN></FONT></P>
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My BX's are dealer installed. Factory rep. has picture. I guess it depends on which dealer, which rep. If you are not sure, than the BX's are not for you. In your area they may be concerned about cutting on rocks?
 
Get what " you " want !!! It's your money, if that dealer don't want to help you out. Find one that will. </P>


You know what application your tires need to be for you and your machine to perform properly. It's your money, you have to live with the decision, but I would get what you need the first time. For you for sure later don't want to get second ideas, and then spend another chunk of money just to make yourself happy..... You do need a more aggressive tire than the ATV's that come with the machine, but only you know what will make you happy. Don't let that dealer talk you in anything less !!!!</P>


That's just my opinion >>>>></P>
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I am interested in these tires. Yet I do have questions.. or doubts. On thisforum we have someone from a dealership that questions their use, another saying their dealer says the same, and back a couple years, a thread that talks of a sidewall failure on these tires.[yet the info is not clear..was thetire low on air to start with.. what actually happened?] anyways withthis...I am hesitant. </P>


EZchair..you say yours are fine....but did you not just get your machine? You have not really used it much yet have you. When Bordercollie had his tires fail , it took some time. {I forget... it might have been a couple hundred hours]</P>


If it is the sidewalls that are in question.. I would say ones use would make a huge difference. Mine machine will often be carrying its rated capacity and I do have steep hills with turns. </P>


My dealer does not really have an answer for me on the usethese tires. He has contacted a tech guy for Kubota to get their answer. If he says no.. I will play it safe and do something else.</P>


If my dealer thought they would be a problem.. I would not want them to install them just because I wanted them. </P>


I will either go with another tire all-together.. or as I "reported" earlier Carlisle makes similar tires. They have them available 26-12-12.. in 4 ply 6 ply 8 and 10. Locally the 6 ply are available for $110 dollars each. </P>


My dealer said the BX wheels and tires would be $100 plus shipping [he seems to be higher then what others here have reported on other parts]</P>


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Glenn,</P>


In your " riding area " or the applicatioin that your using your RTV for, do you have sharp rocks, things that will " CUT " the sidewalls of you tires ? Sharp stobs like where a bush hog has cut, leaving sharp, stiff, hard sticks that will cut into your tires ? Construction sites, where limestone rocks are there, and to get to point B, you have to go threw them ? >>>>>>></P>


Reason I'm asking, as you already know,many folks terrain are different, along with their applications. Just to give you a example, in my case, don't have any trouble with rocks, don't have any, stick stobs, there are some, but nothing to worry about. BUT, we have what we call " JESUS THORNS ", these nasty thorns will go threw anything I do believe. Don't care what ply tires a person has, these thorns will penatrate threw them, there leaving you with a flat. But it don't cut the tire, it just " ice-picks ": the hell out of them. That's why we have installed 1/2 gallon of SLIME in each tire, to help the situation. With that being said,or what I'm trying to say is, the tuffness of the tires you need depends on your application. So far, I've havn't had a flat >>>></P>


Some folks frowned on some tires for they say they are rating is not high enough. Hell, just add a little more air if needed. My close friend, who owns a construction company, has two RTV's that he uses on his work sites. And let me add this, he loads the hell out of these RTV's....He purchased some tires that they said that the rating was lower than others, but he runs the devil out of them, with more air, and yet, has he cut a tire, they are lasting great. And he runs the heck out of them with all that weight. Even surprised him .... </P>


I honestly believe, that the BX tires will serve well in any application. And yes, from what I've read on this forum, bordercollies tires might havefailed, but not beforethey used the hell out of them, wokingthe farms, and had MANY hours of use on them Not speaking for bordercollie, but I would imagine it was time for a change ... I knowbordercollie islistening, so I can imaginethey can tell us the whole story on the life oftheir tires replace >>>>>></P>
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[quote user="hammerhead"]If it is the sidewalls that are in question.. I would say ones use would make a huge difference. Mine machine will often be carrying its rated capacity and I do have steep hills with turns.[/quote]
Glenn,

If you're loaded, coming down a hill and into a sharp turn, I'd expect the BX tires to rub in the front. A lift kit would take care of that but it does raise your center-of-gravity which you probably won't like in your hills.

Brian
 
BC, Haven't been able to get mine to rub, up, down, left or right, hard stop. Nothing, I was going to put the optional front springs but haven't needed them. Don't know if they would hit if I jumped theRTV. But I'm like Two Guns, I don't think we should be jumping them. Where are yours hitting? Do you have cab, I don't. Maybe that's the difference. If you have cab, do you have the optional front springs?
 
HI Hammerhead and all, I somehow missed this post and wanted to set the record straight. My original WS tires were taken off and stored for emergency use. I just constantly got stuck with these things I replaced them with regular26" Mudlites. I had a lot of hrs on this set of cheap 26"Mudlites at least 800 hrs and probably more(like a 1000) according to the records I dug up. I replaced them while they still had tread but had developed knots on 2 of them. They were well worth the money. I got that set mounted on polished rims for $494 delivered. Now the 27" set I just got ride great .I paid 400 delivered for this set of radials Mudlites 27" XTR 9" in front and 11"rear. I mounted these on the polished rims.I have at least 250 hrs on these already and they still look GREAT. The tread is deep and I drove all over the place today in 2 WD . 4WD in the really bad areas . Where the cows stand waiting to be let on the feed pad is just terrible after a 3" rain like Thrs. ,but I was just a zipping around like a 4 wheeler. It is a great feeling to have such a dependable machine and tires to trust. I have the base model WS . I have not beefed up anything I have standard springs, shocks and never,never has anything rubbed If I can be of help just ask. These are good tires though and If you have a lot of lemon trees or Bodac trees these have big big THORNS! get some of TWOGUNS "slime" then you won't have a flat. Bordercollie[&][&]
 
I don't think there is much chance of running into any Lemon trees up here... [:)] Perhaps EZ chair has some is down in the southern part of the state... but none here [:)]</P>


Jamie.. I am not sure what your Jesus thorns are.. We do have Hawthorn, and they are pretty nasty.. I have a lot of them. So far.. and it might just be luck.. but I have not had any problems on anything except my mountain bikes [and my body]. I have a bit of exposed ledge.. but nothing real sharp. Sharp stumps?.. I can't say I won't ever hit one.. but I attemp to cut everything off at ground level. Those type of things are heck on a mountain bike.. and worse on the body. Again I have not had problems with my other equipment with these. I was not so much worried about cutting a sidewall. I was more worried about the tire itself breaking down as bordercollies did. Although if the sidewalls are not stiff enough to handle a load RTV... in a turn the tires might roll so that the sidewall ends up on the ground where it could more easily get cut...</P>


I am sure some of you will be happy when I finally choose a tire. [:)]. I should be ordering in a couple of weeks. </P>


I do find it interesting when I was looking at the ITP terra cross tire, people told me not to get it for it was only 4 ply... this bx tire is only a 4 ply and people are praising it???</P>


Allterain Online... did talk me out of the Terra cross, they said the rubber was soft and would wear quickly on the RTV. They thought the Bighorn was a much better tire, If I wanted one of that type... more of an all arounder.. vs a mud tire. The bighorn is still high on my list. </P>


Obviously I am interested in the bx tire also.. that and maybe the Carlisle equivilent. [It comes in heavier duty versions]. The xtr mudlite is still a maybe.. but lower on the list. [for my applications]</P>


EZ chair you say you can't get yours to rub.. have you put a 1000 [or 2000] in the bed.. and then ridden in hilly rough terrain? That is where those with larger tires are getting the rub. On smooth flat ground it won't happen. Not wanting to answer for brian but he does not have a cab.. he has the plastic roof and non-glass windsheild. </P>


Ok so I either need for Brian to try out the bx tires so I have a comparison [he runs the bighorns and his use and terrain is similar to mine] Or I need each of you to come up here so I can see each in action. hmm Jamie.. I do need to see your tires in action.. plus you want to try our snow.. Bordercollie, Brian, and EZchair. Anyone else that is interested can come along also [I don't want to leave anyone out] ... and while your coming you could bring your chainsaws and other tools also. [:)]</P>


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