Sometimes, driving skills or risk management don't play a factor in getting stuck. Sometimes, it is just fate. Risk management = It's December, it is raining and snowing and I have a house that has 2 young boys in it that are the sons of friends of mine, visiting for the holidays, and want to go trail riding, in the mud, at Christmas time. I assessed incorrectly. We got stuck on a log left on the side of the hill, when the Gator slipped onto it. Driving skills had nothing to do with it. Fate was 100% in charge that day. Either way, it has nothing to do with the fact that I needed a winch that day. A 3 foot pull was all I needed to get either the front wheels or the back wheels back on the ground. I am not talking about pulling myself or someone else 100's of feet out of a ravine. I don't claim to Be Matt's Off-road Recovery. I am not the FabRats. I do kind of look like Robbie Layton, though. No dreams or aspirations to be them. So, I can't see into the future of if I will ever need a winch to pull myself just the foot or two it will take for me to drive myself out the rest of the way, but based on a couple of unforeseen events that have happened in the past 12 years without a winch on my old Gator, I am going to buy and install one on my new RTV-X1100C, just in case in the next 12 years, I once again, fail to perform risk management or lose my driving skills. Or.....maybe I will have a dream and get stuck.