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<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">Takes some time for the rtv 1100 to warm up for heatin thecab for the winter. Choices I have found:</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">1. Kubota sells block heater (freeze plug). </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">2. Oil pan heating pad. Glues on the oil pan.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">3. Radiator in-linehose heating element.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">4. Oil dip stick heater.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">5. Remote engine start kit.</span></div>
 
I've had great success using the heating pad type. I also put one on the tranny to get that warm as well.</p>


Do a search for block heater on the forum. Here's one of the threads.</p>


http://compacttractorreview.com/cs/forums/p/2267/8156.aspx#8156</p>


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I DON'T USE AN ENGINE OR OIL HEATER ON THE KUBOTA RTVDOWN HERE IN MISSISSIPPI, BUT WE HAVE ONE IN THE OLD 1968 MODEL 4020JOHN DEERE TRACTOR OIL PAN . IT WORKS GREAT. JUST PLUG IT IN AT NIGHT IN THE WINTER AND THE WARM OIL THE NEXT MORNING MAKES IT MUCH EASIER TO CRANK AND WITH OUT ALL THAT CLATTERING. IT SCREWS INTO THE SIDE OF THE OIL PAN. WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE ON THE OTHER OLD TRACTOR BUT STOPPED USING THAT ONE AFTER A 'SHOCKING' EXPERIENCE..OUCH!!I IMAGINE THE DIP STICK HEATER WOULD BE SIMILIAR BUT I ALSO LIKE THE SOUND OF THE FREEZE PLUG HEATER IF IT COULD MIGRATE HEAT TO THE OIL PAN. I LIKE THE WARM OIL BECAUSE IT WOULD LUBE THE ENGINE QUICKLY. BORDERCOLLIE</p>
 
what about just putting a electric hot plate under the motor and set it to low or medium? wouldn't that keep the engine oil and the engine at a warm temp . i figure the low setting would be better giving the low ground clearance it would probably keep the engine oil at about100 degrees or just a tad higher. plus you can set it on a timer to turn on about two hours before you need to use the rtv so you won't be havin to heat the oil all night long . heck even a heat lamp under the oil pan would do the trick.</p>
 
You put alight bulb under the 'ole oil pan, that heat will rise, and the engineWILL stay warm. I can remember years ago folks doing that totractors all the time. Worked then, will work now !!! Don't really get tha cold down here, and if it does, it's not for long ~~~~</p>


We have that " humid" cold down here, cannot put enough clothes on, cold just goes threw 'em !!!!!!</p>


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THAT'S RIGHT .THOSE LIGHT BULBS THROW A LOT OF HEAT. I'VE RAISED BABY CHICKS WITH A LIGHT RIGGED UP ALL SAFE LIKE . THEY THOUGHT THE BULB CONTAINER ALL DRAPED WITH A TOWEL WAS THEIR MAMA. THEY JUST PEEPED AND SNUGGLED UP TO IT.. UPP'S .I DIGRESS TO A HAPPY YOUNGER TIME WHEN A PERSON WAS LUCKY AND HAPPYTO GET 2 TV CHANNELS, AND HAD 2 GAS HEATERS IN THE WHOLE HOUSE ..REMEMBER THAT?? BUT THOSE ELECTRIC BLANKETS AND QUILTS DID THE TRICK TOO. WITHOUT ALL THE FANCY STUFF. BORDERCOLLIE</p>
 
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<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">Wow, thank you. You brought up a life time problem with our JD 4020, & 4010s, diesel and propane. Please correct me if I am wrong. Your 4020 heating element is placed in your oil drain plug? You remove the heating element to drain your oil? I have yet to see element listedfor a 4020. I want toplace one in the oil drain but can see the cam shaft breaking it up. At the head of the oil pan I see another pan plug, what is that for? John Deere dealer shop people said none of those heaters work. I don't believe them. We have them in all of equipment from Detroit 60 series to Versatile tractors. </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">To heat our 4020 we use a magnet style heater. Don't like them, first thing happens the plastic handle breaks off, then you have a very hot piece of metal to peal off.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: x-small; font-family: Arial;">Thank you for your reply and help. Have a good day. JIK</span></div>
 
bczoom, thank you excellent post. Have you had any problems with the heating pads? I was worried that I may drag them off. Again thank you for your post. Is of great help. Have a good day. JIK</p>
 
jik, Hi i've been using a stick on pad type engine heater for a couple of years now with good results. i'm in NY state so it gets pretty cold,0 to -10 quite often. It really cuts down on the cranking, and also engine noise on startup. The one i'm using is the Proheat model # 154 about $ 50.00 and well worth it. The web site is www.engineheaters.com I haven't had a problem with it coming off since it's install under the oil pan skid plate. It's very easy to install, hpoe this helps you, jdh1</p>
 
I found that I can be using the RTV in cold weather and get plenty of heat as long as I have the throttle up. When blading snow it is toasty warm. When I go in the house to refresh the coffee thermos (or to get rid of some), I noticed that the temp drops in a hurry at an idle and the heater is blowing cold. For me it is a matter of starting it and letting it run a few minutes at a higher RPM and the cab will be toasty warm. I need to either find a thermostat that works better or install a hand throttle so I don't have to raise the bed and put a clamp on the throttle.</p>
 
HI JIK, THE HEATING ELEMENT GOES IN THE FRONT OF THE PAN ..RIGHT WHERE YOU SEE THAT PLUG. IT IS ALL METAL WITH NO PLASTIC AHD A VERY TIGHT AND SECURE METAL CAP THAT SCREWS OVER THE MALE PLUG TO PROTECT IT. IT IS SEPERATE FROM THE DRAIN. THE ENGINE BLOCK ON OUR DIESEL 4020WAS ACTUALLY WARM TO TOUCH AFTER AN OVERNITE "PLUG IN". [THE PROPANE WAS THE "SHOCKER' ELEMENT]. WE ALSO HAD A PRESSURE REDUCER INSTALLED INTO THAT VALVE RIGHT BELOW THE AIR CLEANER. WE WOULD WIND IT DOWN TO CRANK IT IN THE WINTER...OTHERWISE YOU CAN ROCK THE WHEEL HARD TO REDUCE THE HYD PRESSUREAND, IF YOU HAVE 3 HANDS.. A SHOT OF STARTING FLUID HELPS. THE HEATING ELEMENT IS MUCH MUCH BETTER!! ALSO THAT PROPANE RADIATOR IS CLOSE TO $800 LIST BECAUSE THE FUEL CUT OFF GOES THRU IT. SO BE CAREFUL OF IT.. WE JUST BOUGHT ONE.I AM GLAD THE RTV IS SIMPLE. IF IT GETS REALLY COLD I MAY THROW A HEATING PAD ON IT. IT DOES WORK AS I DO THIS ON THE OLD 1840 CASE THAT HAS NO GLOW PLUGS WHEN IT GOT REALLY COLD.[BELOW 25 HERE]I LOVE THE RTV'S GLOW PLUGS! I GUESS YOUR CHOICE FOR THE RTV WILL DEPEND ON WHERE YOU LIVE.I HAD PICTURES TO POST ABOUT THE PLUG BUT COULDN'T GET THEM TO UPLOAD.. I NEED TO LOOK AT BC ZOOMS POST ABOUT THAT.GOOD LUCK.. BORDERCOLLIE</p>
 
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Bordercollie, your post came through prefect. Good picture and right on target. As I read your post I was lol. Yes, we both have been there, starting our JD's. Our JD 4010 Diesel we changed it over to 12 volt system to spin the motor faster. I don't think it helped any. Our two JD propane will start anytime anywhere any weather. Our Allis 7020 and 7050 have factory locations for heater plugs, easy and fast to install. So does the Versatile.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">January this year I stopped at Kubota Dealer bought a RTV1100. I soon realized the 1100 was a tractor with a truck cab on it. I was so impressed with it in April I went back a bought a Kubota tractor M125. First new tractor in my life. Love it. Kubota price was $10,000.00 cheaper than the rest, with more goodie's on it. I have a weakness for 0% interest.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">We now have a tractor per acre almost. Need to sell something, but they all have been part of the family for so long it is hard to do that. Lots of memories. </font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Thanking you for the time and effort you put in to helping me with my problem. You answered all my question. Jesus Blessing to You, JIK</font></div>
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[quote user="jik"]Have you had any problems with the heating pads?[/quote]</p>


No issues at all.</p>


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