RTV 900 FULL SKID PLATE

Tommy I am going to try to come there while I am home this time. I wont have long off. I have 1/2" skidplate on my tractor, 3/8" on two of my trucks. I wont let you near my 1100 with that 3/16" ! We are going to have to discuss 1/4" or 5/16". I am not concerned of the weight issue. If I can lay the skid plate across two blocks and beat it for 5 minutes with a 16# sledge and it wont dent, then we are in the ballpark. I've worked on those old oil rigs many a year and I can swing that hammer pretty hard too ;) Will be in touch with you soon. Be traveling these next few days.</P>
 
1/4 and 5/16is ok but you have to add in the weight of them bumpers and nerf bars you want too. iron is heavy and iron and mud don't mix iron sinks to the bottom of the mud holes and lets the lighter mud rise to the top meaning get a scuba set cause. them thicker plates are fine on your tractor and truck because they have more hp to haul it around . i would just hate for you to load the rtv down and not be able to pull it out with a 9k winch. i'll be waiting for the visit maybe by then i'll have my 1100 too .you can bring twoguns down with you.lol tell him they got a "popeye's" not to far away.
 
<FONT color=#808080>Quote: you can bring twoguns down with you.lol tell him they got a "popeye's" not to far away</FONT></P>


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<FONT color=#808080><FONT color=#0000ff size=4> That's Right Tommy, a true Kubota dealer will always have a " Popeye's " chicken housenext to it ~~~~</FONT> </FONT></P>


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ole twoguns got more kills under his wing then a chicken hawk.them chicken see him comin and they dressup like roosters.
 
[quote user="JW1"]We are going to have to discuss 1/4" or 5/16". I am not concerned of the weight issue.[/quote]
Well, it would lower you're center of gravity...

Let's assume and ballpark that the skidplate would be approximately 2'x8' (16 sq/ft).
1/4" is a little over 11# per sq/ft or 180# total.
5/16" = almost 14# per sq/ft or 200# total.

I think shipping to those of us up north could be a real issue...
 
well i'll reply to the shipping thing it would be a "up to the buyer thing one what he wants but me i would go with a 1/4 aluminum plate but i would make it in sections that way if for some reason you had a really big dent you won't have to drop the whole skid plate todo the job . plus if you really detroyed a section you can order just that section and not have to replace the whole skid plate. but some will want the steel and man that steel is heavy it's gonna cost you in shipping just as much as buying the plates but i can do both but if it was me i would go with a 1/4 maybe 5/15 aluminum plates "marine grade" the marine grade is stronger . you can take too pieces and one will be marine grade and the other regular aluminum and when you cut it your saw will fly through the regular aluminum but the marne grade is more tougher.
 
<font face="Arial">You guys are providing some excellent feed back. I will be searching the plastics market tomorrow to see what this this material is. Tommy, my atv weight with rider is about 750 lbs. I agree with you that the 900 is around 2000 lbs. The atv skid plate is 7/32". I think I should try to find the same material in 1/2 inch and test it. Now that we have discussed weight issues I will find out the weight of the material as well. </font>
 
Try this again since my last try did not take.</P>


As an old retired Mechanical Engineer I can tell you that skid plates are made to absorb a glancing blow. My Ford F2500 4X4 Diesel weighs 6300 lbs with me in it and the skid plates are sheet metal with ribs pressed in for strength. Some plastics are very durable and will absorb a glancing blow very well.</P>


Now if you are the guy that wrote he was hitting big rocks at 40mph I do not think much of anything will work. He sure has more intestines than I do.</P>
 
This may be the right plastic;
<font color="#ff0000" face="Verdana" size="2"><a name="POLYCARBONATE:">POLYCARBONATE: </a></font><font face="Verdana" size="2">Also
known as Lexan®, it is stronger than plate glass and virtually
unbreakable. Excellent clarity and weather ability. It is harder to
machine or thermoform than acrylic or petg.</font>

<font face="Verdana" size="2">Manufactured in some colors and with attributes such as U.V. protection and added impact resistance</font></p>

<font face="Verdana" size="2">Standard sheet sizes 4’ x 8’; 5’ x 8’; 6’ x 8’ others available. Thickness .080 to 1 inch</font></p>

<font face="Verdana" size="2">LEXAN® also has a full range of films.</font></p><font face="Verdana" size="2">Used for Storefronts, barriers, windows. </font>
 
<FONT color=#808080>Quote from Canyon Creek : </FONT><FONT color=#808080>Now if you are the guy that wrote he was hitting big rocks at 40mph I do not think much of anything will work. He sure has more intestines than I do.</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>" Yes, and tougher " other " things than I ~~~~ I am sitting here now gritting my teeth just thinking about that kind of impact !!!! "</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#ff0000><FONT size=5><FONT face=Arial color=#000000> </FONT><FONT face=JohnHancock color=#ff0000>~~~ Two Guns ~~~</FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
 
[quote user="Mannie"]This may be the right plastic;
<FONT face=Verdana color=#ff0000 size=2><A name=POLYCARBONATE:>POLYCARBONATE: </A></FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Also known as Lexan®, it is stronger than plate glass and virtually unbreakable. </FONT>[/quote]</P>


Yes, the GE <FONT face=Verdana size=2>Lexan®, is some very tuff material. We use it all the time in the sign industry.Also used as bullet proofingstations &items > >>>> And that stuff is priced like GOLD !!!!</FONT></P>
 
yea i priced some 1/8th lexan one time and man it wasn't nice i forgot the price but it was to high for me i could imagine paying for 1/2". i would have to see a test but for me aluminum would be better i would agree that just skidding along in the mud that plastic will do good but think about it if i'm not wronge here 1/4" or 5/16 " aluminum plates i think is lighter than 1/2" of lexan i picked up some before and it did have a little weight to it. it could have been another plastic i picked up but the one i did pickup it did have a weight .and i think aluminum would be cheaper in the long run it won't get brittle and it should cost less at first too just to build it. as soon as i get the 1100 i'll know more at about how much plateing is needed .
 
Probobly could, but you can get a more accurate price. Reason being, we purchase in bulk, purchase it at wholesale, and the price would be so muchdifference that is probobly is up there !!!!</P>


Now in my opinion on the Lexan vs. Aluminum for the skid-plate accessory >>>> Gowith the aluminum !!!!![:D]</P>


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<FONT size=5><FONT face=Arial> </FONT><FONT face=JohnHancock color=#ff0000>~~~ Two Guns ~~~</FONT></FONT> </P>


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1/4 inch aluminum grade 6061-T6 weighs 3.666 lbs per sq. ft. Assuming 2' X 8' plate is 16 sq. ft. times 3.666= 58.66 pounds. Weight sounds good to me. Cost up here inOntario, Canada is $520 for a 4X8 sheet. Half that and you are paying roughly $260 for the metal plus taxes. I am still working on sourcing the plastic. I went into a platics shop and the guy told me there is no way for him to determine what type of plastic I have on my ATV skid plate. He said there are litteraly hundreds of types. He was not that helpful. I am trying another connection through a friend. I shall keep you all posted.</p>

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Plastic to be used is UHMW puck plastic. Used around hockey rinks and for industrial kitchen counters. Can withstand extreme blows. I found a 1/2 " sheet 4' X 10' black for $425 -50 celsius guarantee. Further information on the aluminum; someone used aluminum and told me it actually grabs your atv when making contact with sharp rock. Acts like a break due to it's softness grabbing. I can see what he means. As we proceed further in this discussion I am leaning towards using the UHMW. The plastic weighs 98 pounds for a 1/2" X 4 X 10 sheet. Using a 2 X 8 piece would weigh 39.2 pounds. 33% less weight than aluminum!
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<P mce_keep="true">I don't think you'd want to use polycarbonate (lexan). It's really tough but it will fracture for sure. I use Lexan in an impact recordingdevice that I manufacture. For grins we tested it with a .22LR at 10 feet.A piece of it shattered and broke off at the point of bullet impact. The thickness is about 1/4". </P>
 
Forum folks:</P>


Regarding the "full skid plate" idea for the RTV 900,1100. It sounds like maybe the idea of a 'skid plate' might bea good idea. Hows that for being "politically correct? A non-commitment comment. Ha Ha. Tis' the season don't ya know! Seriously though. Aside from the question of what material to use -- plastic or metal, I have thought of several concerns that maybe veteran and new RTV owners could address. #1. Would a full skid plate act as a shelf to hold mud and other debris between the frame and skid plate.# 2. What effect, if any, would a full skid plate be on heating/cooling of the tranny and engine? </P>


still a RTV wannabe, Keifer</P>
 
<P mce_keep="true">i would never put plastic under my utv for a skid plate . a hockey puck and a frying pan are to diferent types of impacts if you want to be the first to test it out let us know the results of your damages and the stuff about aluminum grabbing what is that??grabbing what? did you ever think of the heat factor on the plastic that when the heat of the engine from these big utvs get it hot it will flex even more meaning the stuff you want to protect is going to come closer to the rocks then before. a skid plate is supose to be a skid plate not a flex plate you don't want it to flex if it flexs to much then it ain't gonna do it's job you will end up with a dented up bottom or a cracked diferential. . plastic is good on fenders where flexing is good so that way when you do hit something it will bend and come right back out but you don't want that on a skid plate. i have hit a many stumps in my life and if i would have had plastic under me i would have been spending some money but i had metal so i just skidded over it.</P>
 
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